Patched round ball loads 12

For me, round ball loads tend to shoot higher than point of aim in a revolver and lower than point of aim from a rifle. I use basically the same load i use for lead ball except i use a thicker greased patch. Lay a lubricated cloth patch over the muzzle and place the round ball in the center of the patch. Oct 26, 2008 the nominal dimension of a 12 gauge shotguns barrel is 0. Maxi ball loads specify the use of maxilub as a lubricant. With 8 ounces of pressure, the hammer fell, sending the 45grain patched round ball skyward in a plume of white smoke. That much weight drops very rapidly down range, so putting the card behind the patched ball to capture the inertia of ignition will help. Shooting roundballs costs half as much as anything else. A good patch is made of good quality, dense natural material. The lightest projectile in this caliber is a patched round ball. In all of these guns, i use one load for everything. A load of 20 grains of fffg with patched round balls usually gives excellent results on both turkeys and squirrels in. Shot off a bench with an ithaca 37 smooth bore deer slayer barrel with rifle sights.

Small game hunting with muzzleloaders realtree camo. Patches are available in 10, 15, 20, and 25 thou thicknesses in most good muzzleloading stores. Arguably the single most critical part of the load chain. The round ball is still one of the best short to medium range slugs available today. Pour the measured powder charge down the barrel and load a patched round ball directly on top of the powder charge omitting all the cards and wads. He wanted a patched round ball rifle with lots of punch, and the 1516 diameter barrel provided the beefiness to permit shooting stout loads of fffg black powder, and the slow 1 turnin70 twist allows it to be loaded and shot at fairly high velocity without loss of accuracy. Bp musket shooters are claiming accuracy with patched round ball of 3. And thats exactly the load i set out to use for taking the fallow buck shown in. Oct 05, 2009 as far as round balls go, u need a 100 grains of loose powder and a patched ball. The patch round ball challenge long range hunting forum. A round ball doesnt touch the rifling itself, the patch does. It is no secret and most books and manufacturers recommend the same loads. To determine that, i shot my fusil dechasse with a variety of loads.

Round ball accuracy at 50 yards in a modern inline. It was by far the most accurate load in that gun, and while labeled light by a lot of guys, it killed with alacrity. Aug 04, 2014 the patching material is the key to be accurate with a round ball load. By two oclock that afternoon, id fired the rifle five more times, all but one of them resulting in another squirrel for my pack and an everwidening grin upon my face.

Maybe not exactly what youre looking for, but my buck and ball load is plenty accurate at 30yds using remington sts premier hulls, winchester primers, 23 gr. A 12 bore round ball s speed of 1,300fps will usually provide all the recoil one wants, and then has a point blank range of 100yards. Apr 30, 2008 how to load a round ball into a muzzleloader. A few have inquired about my drilling jig i use for making donut wads for centering round balls. Traditionalmldata2 north american muzzleloader hunting. Jan 14, 2018 my jackrabbit load is now 30 grains of alliant mz over a thin patched round ball seems good out to 5060 yards. I have taken deer with both but never studied the numbers on these. Dec 25, 2010 the lightest projectile in this caliber is a patched round ball. My jackrabbit load is now 30 grains of alliant mz over a thinpatched round ball seems good out to 5060 yards.

The nominal dimension of a 12 gauge shotguns barrel is 0. When loading a patched ball, position the sprue up and centered. These balls have proven to be reliable and devastating for shorter range shooting in close cover, and weighing close to 1 18 oz they deliver more than. Despite this fact, fast twist barrels will shoot round balls accurately. Bumping a round ball to the proper diameter is the only way to get any accuracy from them. Hi, i read in few places on the internet it is absolutely safe to shoot a patched round ball using a 12ga shotgun providing the bore is a cylinder not shooting a. To duplicate that load in his side by side 12 gauge percussion muzzle loader he. View profile view forum posts private message senior member join date feb 2016. In my several smoothbore muskets, i can keep all the rounds in the black of a 100 yd rifle target at 50 yds with patched round ball. Unfortunately i was having too much fun and shot em all up. How in the world did some of our countrys patriots, in the late 1700s and early 1800s, make reliable head and chest shots on british officers at 200 to 300 yards using patched ball rifles, thus, cutting the snakes head off, as it were. Theres so many sizes i dont know what exact one i need for round ball.

When the thought finally occurred to me that i might be able to load the gun like a rifle, with just a patched round ball over the powder, no wads, i tried it out, but. The simple round ball slug is just the same as the musket balls of old. More shooting means more confidence and less flinching. Bullet ball for 16ga rolling block archive gunboard. Please note that what patch thickness you use will also play a part in what ball size to use. Today there are a number of methods plastic shot cup wads, center cut fiber wads, etc. Loading the plr or muzzleloader with a patched round ball. It will kill well to about 150yards, if you can hit with it. A billionth of a second is the time it takes light to travel 12 inches behind every great man. So, im about to start shooting muzzle loader for the first time and am wondering what size patch i need to get for my. There are plenty of videos on about reloading and shooting pumpkin ball loads by entering 12 gauge round ball or 12 gauge pumpkin ball into the youtube search box. Cartridge ammunition, pistol, rifle, cowboy action loads by hornady 2.

However, for the greater part, truly good long range shooting, as we moderns know it, was a distinctly unusual circumstance in the days of round balls and patches. Im going to start with round ball because its cheaper practice and then move on to conicals later on. I found a load that i love for slugs using 1 18 oz round ball slugs. Minimum deerkilling muzzleloading loads for young and. The lubed patch should be thick enough to hold the ball snugly on top of the powder charge and keep it centered in the bore. Round balls in fast twist rifles white muzzle loading. Maxiball loads specify the use of maxilub as a lubricant. I found that using a cotton ball for an overshot card tightened. My normal ffg loads are 100 grains for patched round ball and 120 grains with a 600 grain conical. Now im not sure if the patch gets spun off the ball or if patch and ball just skims the rifling but either way a round ball wont shoot for squat out of a fast twist barrel unless you cut the powder down to an absolute minimum which makes it impractical for most purposes. So i have been casting my own slugs and 00 buckshot for my s12 for a while now.

Dot and winchester 209 primer for round ball loads with up to 0. In his case his round ball was larger than the actual bore so it was forced onto the rifling and worked quite well. A cheap 12 gauge single shot shooting a slug is the very worst choice to introduce a person to deer hunting based on the recoil energy. Hi, i read in few places on the internet it is absolutely safe to shoot a patched round ball using a 12ga shotgun providing the bore is a cylinder not choked and the ball fits. Bullet ball for 16ga rolling block archive gunboards. Traditional hunters in ca appreciate having a patched roundball option for their old slowtwist rifles my jim chambers isaac haines flinter was not made to sit on the rack during hunting season. Run one or two dry patches down both barrels and pop a couple of caps on each. I use pillow ticking and cut at the muzzle on my rifles.

You can buy good quality patches in your local blackpowder shop, but you can also make your own. The patching material is the key to be accurate with a round ball load. The big leman cradles in cross sticks like a dream and is rock solid for long range shooting. I generally save the patched balls for new shooters not hunting loads. Similar to the antique possibles bag style ball mold used by mel gibson in the movie the patriot, this. A 12 bore round balls speed of 1,300fps will usually provide all the recoil one wants, and then has a point blank range of 100yards. With a gun of that length and bulk, recoil is very pleasant with these loads. One of my favorite patched round ball rifles of the early 1970s was a. Out of a quality bore, a properly loaded patched round ball can prove deadly accurate at the ranges it was truly intended for and that is 25 to 50 yards. I am currently working on a special load which looks promising in the. In the typical lightweight rifles that a young hunter can handle 67 lbs. Grains listed after projectile type represent bullet weight.

Minimum deerkilling muzzleloading loads for young and small. Patched round ball gun and game the friendliest gun. Ff powder, pillow ticking patchbore butter, from a deer. My doc white leman weighs over ten pounds and will easily proof a round ball black powder charge of 200 grains. With 6070 grains of powder it took an evilly tight patch and ball combo that was heck to load to get reasonable accuracy. With 100 grains of 2f, and the card and patched ball combo, my 12 gauge. I have an old 10ga ml i load with 100gr ffg and a patched, 660gr.

They can be just as powerful as many high power pistol loads and are plenty potent at. Certainly a patched round ball loads were used in muzzleloading smoothbores, however, i was refering to full bore round ball cartridge shotgun loads prior to the common use of the choke bore. I have shot a lot of those loads in a sidebyside double 12. However, shooting round balls from a choked barrel is not recommended.

I have always wanted a 4 bore smoothie for big round balls mind. In an old issue of the double gun journal a fellow was loading his 12 bore rifle with 12 gauge round ball loaded into a plastic shotshell and roll crimped. We load one of our precision long rifles with a patched round ball. So, my load for all round ball shooting is 80 grains of fffg goex, a. Made like an original antique ball mold, from the 1750 to 1870 era, this single cavity mold is made of forged steel, neatly fitted and hinged. The squirrel tumbled off the limb to the woodlot floor. Round ball loads specify tc patch material lubricated with tc no.